Divine Whispers: Hearing God's Voice

Dr. Sheila Jackson shares her transformational journey from corporate success at General Motors to ministry, teaching us how to recognize God's voice and sustain our confession of faith through life's challenges.

• Learning to recognize God's voice through consistent prayer and relationship
• Discovering your divine purpose by spending time with God and being open to His direction
• Miraculous testimony of being healed from cancer twice without medical intervention
• The importance of watching your words and standing on God's promises
• Addressing why some believers receive healing while others don't
• Spiritual disciplines that strengthen faith: prayer, Bible study, meditation, and confession
• Finding the right community and teachers to support spiritual growth
• Taking risks with God who "cannot fail you"

Connect with Dr. Sheila Jackson on Facebook under Joshua 2715 or Wind Spirit Soul, on Instagram @DrSheila, or email at windspiritsoul28@yahoo.com to learn more about spiritual maturity and growing in God.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to "Is Your Way In Your Way"
• 4:04 Meet Dr. Sheila Jackson
• 10:24 How to Hear God's Voice
• 18:38 Discovering Your Divine Purpose
• 22:15 Testimony: Healed from Cancer Twice
• 34:15 Faith During Loss and Disappointment
• 42:14 Growing Spiritually Through Disciplines
• 46:13 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Transcript

Cassandra: 0:25

Good day out there to all of my listeners and I'd like to welcome you to Is your Way In your Way podcast and I'm your host. My name is Cassandra Crawley Mayo and for many of my listeners out there, you know that the name of my podcast is also the name of my book titled Is your Way In your Way, and this podcast are for individuals or I say women, but also men that are stuck. You know within your heart of hearts that your soul is calling you to do something, do something different than what you're doing. It's like you have an emptiness and you just can't figure it out. You know there's some that say you know what? I always wanted to write a book, but you've not done it.

Cassandra: 1:15

Or I wanted to change jobs, or I wanted to get a promotion. I want to move, I want to get out of this toxic relationship. Just a number of things, your dreams and all your aspirations, and it's not done. You've not made that move. So that's why this podcast has been created and goes live so that you can start what I would say relate to personal development, personal improvement, even enable you to reflect on some of the things that are being said, that I am always prayerful that it'll be something that will enable you to say, aha, there it is, Somebody reach my soul, reach my heart, and I am ready to make a move on it. So today, our podcast title is titled Sustaining Our Confession, sustaining our confession of faith. And who better to talk about this as my special guest, Dr Sheila Jackson? Dr Sheila, how are you today?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 2:17

I'm great, Cassandra. Thanks for having me on your podcast. Thank you.

Cassandra: 2:23

Yes, my honor, it's my honor. Now, one of the things, dr Sheila, that I will do for my audience. I want to read a little bit of your bio so they will have a point of reference and kind of understand, as we do this, have this conversation, to see why we're diving this way or that way based on your background. So Dr Sheila EdD is a transformational leader, educator and minister with over 20 years in the ministry and 15 years in corporate leadership at General Motors. She holds advanced degrees in transformational leadership and business administration and has taught as a business instructor and GED educator. She's the founder of the when Spirits Sow Prophetic School.

Cassandra: 3:16

Dr Jackson has shared prophetic teachings globally, including in Nigeria, and serves with the Prophetic Empowerment Network. She calls it like the PEN that's the acronym for it for she's a devoted mother, grandmother and mentor. She continues to inspire others and her impactful ministry and leadership. So that's a little bit about her, but that's not who she is, and we're going to find out who in the world is Dr Sheila Jackson and kind of talk about her trajectory to get her to where she is today. So, dr Sheila, hey, audience, I'm going to say listeners, dr Sheila, dr Jackson, I'll be all over the place, but I'm going to put it's going to be the Dr Sheila, dr Jackson, just so you'll know. Hey, listen, before you worked for GM, general Motors, as a corporate buyer. What was life like before you even started working in the corporate world?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 4:13

Wow, I was always ambitious. I always knew that I wanted to go into business. I think before General Motors I was a recruiter. I dabbled in that for a little bit and in fact, how I got into General Motors I, the HR director and I were having a conversation and he asked me. He said have you ever thought about coming and working for us? Sheila? And I never did. I was doing well, I never did.

Cassandra: 5:03

And.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 5:03

I thought about it and I thought, and I thought, hmm, hmm, and he said but I'm not sure you'll be happy.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 5:18

He said you, you like your independence All right, I like to come and go when I want to set my own hours. And eventually I said yes, I got hired in December. Anyone that has ever worked for the automotive industry knows they take a three week shutdown. So I worked one week and and then we were down for the rest of December. I thought, ok, I can do this. I can do this. I loved it. It was a challenge, but General Motors was very good to me, extremely good to me. I thought that I would stay forever. Oh, ok, uh-huh, uh-huh, don't you love it? The closer I grew in my relationship with him, I discovered the other plan for my life. And, um, I willingly said yes, you know, I, I had visions of grandeur. I, I it's still. You know, I had this, this is the plan, God, okay, I'll do this, but this is the it's still. You know, I had this. This is the plan. God, okay, I'll do this, but this is the way it's going to go. It's to say, so listen.

Cassandra: 6:36

So I'm curious Um, did you have any dreams and aspirations before working for them? No, okay, all right. So all right, fair enough. I had friends that, so all right, fair enough.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 6:50

I had friends that worked for General Motors, so I knew about General Motors working for them. I knew that they paid well. I knew that they paid well. Yeah, at that time in my life, at that time in my life, it was all about the dollar, Sure, the dollar.

Cassandra: 7:10

Sure. So yeah, so what inspired you to leave that lucrative job and pursue your passion?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 7:21

Oh, wow. You know, I always would tell my the majority of my friends in my earlier years who were teachers and they used to say, sheila, you are. And I was like, yeah, no, I'm, I'm not teaching nothing, I don't want to be a teacher.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 7:41

No absolutely not. But again, as I allow my relationship with the Lord growing more in love and wanting to do the things that please God, I surrendered what I wanted and was willing to do, what the Lord asked me, and that was to teach you know, to go into to ministry. And it became a joke with my friends and they would say, Sheila, you always trying to teach somebody something. We'd ask you one question and you would go step one, step two. But I never saw that in myself. I never, ever saw that in myself. I didn't recognize it was a natural ability coming out of me an innate talent.

Cassandra: 8:35

yeah, yeah, now you know you said something and I know that a lot of and personally I have too. You know you always many for me. I used to say God, what is it that you want me to do? You know I would always say that. And how do you, how do you know what it is that he wants you to do? You know, it's like you know, like like I used to always hear God speaks first, the devil speaks next. You know if he says it first. So what are some ways that people can figure out what it is that God would have them to do? Because, as I indicated before we came on, my mission is to inspire a generation of women to start living their best life on their terms, and what that is is what is it that they're ordained to do? Like you mentioned, we all have a gift, we all have a talent and we're not quite sure what it is really. So tell the listeners. How can one figure out, want to hear what the Lord wants you to do?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 9:58

You have to believe God is a good father, that he loves you and that there's nothing he won't do to get you to the place where not only he is happy but you will be happy. And for me, as a believer, that's a place of prayer. So that's how I started off. I started off building a relationship with prayer and the Lord told me. He said I want you to be consistent. He said that's the key, and recognizing my voice versus anyone else's voice. He said be consistent. So if you tell me you're going to meet me in prayer Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday then I'm going to expect you to be there Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday and Friday. He said I want you to talk to me first and then I want you to learn to be quiet and wait on me to speak to you. I want you to expect me to speak to you. And that's what I did.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 11:33

I started a prayer, disciplined life and I would commune with God Monday through Friday, consistently the same time. So it's not haphazardly. And I'm questioning is this God, is this me? I began that and then I began to get into the word more. Instead of being a spoon fed Christian, I decided OK, I'm going to take responsibility for learning the word of God so I'll know when the enemy's trying to trick me. Does it align with scripture? Can I find God's principle or God's word, doing and saying the same thing? And if I can do that, it becomes a check and a balance. One example I told my son I remember when he hit teenage years and he wanted to stop calling me mom in public and call me Sheila, and I said absolutely not. He said why we're out in public. All the moms are going to turn their head.

Cassandra: 12:42

I said I know your voice.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 12:44

I said I know your voice because I spent time with you. I spent time. I said it doesn't matter how far you're away, I know how you talk. I know the dictions of certain words. I know your tone and it's the same way I'm getting to know God's voice. You spend enough time in relationship. You know God's voice. It becomes easier and easier. It's like talking to your favorite person on the phone.

Cassandra: 13:19

Yeah, they could call you from a different phone.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 13:20

a different phone number, but you know their voice Exactly, and so you're not shaken when, if a different number pops up, because you know their voice.

Cassandra: 13:28

You know the voice.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 13:29

There's a relationship over time Wow. Yeah, it's the same way. God will make sure that you are very secure that it is him talking to you, it is him giving you directions in your life and you become more confident, you have more, greater faith and trust that he's not going to allow you to be led astray. Allow you, particularly in a baby, in our infancy stage, when we're learning that's a good, good parent, that's what good parents do.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 14:05

They guard us on that journey until we're strong enough to be able to make a decision. No, that's not God. That's me. No, that's not God, that's demonic voices.

Cassandra: 14:19

Okay, that's like the title sustaining our confession of faith. Yeah Right, you know you said something that is so true. That is so true when I asked the question how do you know what it is that God would have you to do? And you said if you really want to know.

Cassandra: 14:40

I mean really want to know. You got to ask them and you got to spend time with it, you know. And then you want to have that commitment. You're like, okay, all right. And I have this chapter in my book and the title of that chapter is Dear Women who questioned whether there was a God. And in that chapter it was very interesting how God revealed to me in that chapter how real he was. So you know, and at the end of the chapter I kind of do a synopsis of what God says and one of the things he said if you are open to really want to know me, try me. But you have to be open.

Cassandra: 15:32

And when you said that, that just resonated with me and, I'm certain, with many of my listeners, like, do you really want to live your life as you are ordained to do so. Because I always say we're not here just to be here. We have a reason why we are here. And once we identify that, that's when your soul will be at rest, that's when you have peace and things can change over time. So I loved it when you said, okay, god said you got to be consistent. First of all, you want to pray and I'm going to pray Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, so you know. So what confirmed that you are doing the right thing? What was the?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 16:18

confirmation, kept finding myself in ministries teaching everyone. So you know, it didn't matter the church I was in. I would always be asked would you teach, do you mind teaching? Going through teachers, training, ok, the very thing that I didn't want to do. People recognize the gift I did. Okay, that's good. Because my value system is I'm going where the money is Right yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 16:54

I'm going where the money is. And God had to. The love for him became greater than what I. You know. I was willing to trust him enough because I was falling in love. No different in the natural. The more we fall in love with, you know what they do like.

Cassandra: 17:16

Yeah.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 17:17

Love. You Trust them. You trust them. They've got your best interests at heart, and so I began to trust God that he had my best interests at heart. He wasn't going to lead me astray. And other people began to confirm no, you were born to this, you were born to teach, and I fell in love with teaching. I fell in love with teaching, I acknowledge. Oh man, I love this I love this.

Cassandra: 17:44

That is a beautiful testament, wow. Well, look, I know, because of the relationship I have with God, as you're rewarded, and I'd like to know you know the people that you have witnessed to what are some of the rewards of witnessing the God you only read about.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 18:11

Oh, my gosh. God has blessed me tremendously to be a spiritual mom and a mentor, and I've watched people grow in God, grow in love with God, find out what they were created to do. I've watched and witnessed God use me in miraculous intervention, praying for healing, giving a word of knowledge or a word of wisdom, and so the more I yielded and gained knowledge about the very giftings and what the Lord wanted me to do, he allowed me to see the manifestation of those things in other people and it has been a tremendous honor, a tremendous I'm in awe. A tremendous honor, a tremendous, I'm in awe. You know, last year I did my first crusade in Africa and it bought me to my knees. I had never, ever experienced 10,000 people hungry for the word.

Cassandra: 19:20

Wow.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 19:21

And to think that God would allow me to be a part of it, that he would sustain my life, he would lead and guide me, even when my decision was I don't want to go left. I don't want to go left, Like no, no, you're going left.

Cassandra: 19:42

Yeah.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 19:43

Yeah, allow me to witness that. So it has been an honor to watch people blossom, because I know what it is to be hungry, to want something, to want to be validated, to want to be recognized, to want to see the promises of God, to really want to see what the word says Not just saying, I'm not just talking it but God allows you to witness. There's nothing greater than that, nothing, right, right.

Cassandra: 20:22

Do you have a story of someone that you witnessed to, where you've seen the miraculous?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 20:31

Oh God, yes, Could you share one of those? Well, you know, I'll give my own personal first. So I've had been diagnosed with cancer twice and the first time I used to have a running joke with the Lord because cancer was what tried to destroy my lineage. And I used to have a running joke with the Lord no knife is cutting on these, no knife. I didn't know. I was establishing faith right then.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 21:11

I was just telling the Lord because I didn't have a scripture. I used to just say, lord, and no knife cutting here, no, no knife. And a year before they diagnosed the first time, the Lord told me to go to this healing school and sit up under this pastor for one year. He had a healing ministry and he taught people how to build your faith to believe.

Cassandra: 21:35

And.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 21:36

I went, didn't know, the following year I would get a diagnosis and I discovered the love I had on a wool dress and I just happened to rub my arm. You know that's got. You got a wool. You can't usually feel alone, right? And I heard the spirit of the Lord say go to the doctor. I went to the doctor, but before then I'm standing in praise and worship at my sir at the church and I hear the spirit of God say if you stand on my word, I'm going to heal you. He said I'll heal you if you stand on my word. He said watch your words, watch your words.

Cassandra: 22:17

Okay.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 22:18

And so I did exactly what God told me to do. I stood on the word. I found a scripture on healing and I began to say it to my own body. I began to say it to my own body. I asked the Holy Spirit to watch. Let me hear every time I was saying something that went against the very prayer that I was saying. So I had to watch my casual conversation when people would say I would share with certain people, and they would say, well, Sheila, how you doing? What's the doctor saying?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 22:52

I tell people. I had to learn to say what the doctor said, but God said, but God said that's right. And people would think you know, okay, right, but I didn't care. You have to get to a point that you don't care. And so God, miraculously, miraculously, healed me. I couldn't even tell you when the lump disappeared. I went to the because I had to go through all the all the testing.

Cassandra: 23:20

I had to ask you that.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 23:21

Yeah, had to walk through all of that. Had to walk through all of that. Even God was allowing. Jackson, you're always smiling when you come in here. God's allowing me to be a witness because if I'm going to stand on his word, I got to walk like it. Yeah, and she said she said before she caught herself. She said I don't see anything, she's not, wasn't supposed to tell me. The surgeon was supposed to tell me.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 24:11

Okay, she caught herself. She said oh no, but wait, wait, wait until wait until the doctor comes in and he'll, you know, he'll go over with you. I knew right then God had already done it and you had chemo and all of that. I didn't have to go through chemo. Didn't have to do that, really, wow. Didn't have to go through any of that. I stood on the word of God.

Cassandra: 24:34

Yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 24:35

Every time I meditated on God's word so I can paint a picture in my own heart. I had to be fully persuaded. Paint a picture in my own heart. I had to be fully persuaded, I had to make sure that my mouth wasn't saying what the enemy was trying to tell me. Your mother had it, your aunt had it, your grandmother had it.

Cassandra: 24:58

It's in the family genetic right.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 25:02

Even well-intentioned believers Welled. They had good intentions, but they weren't. They weren't willing to fight or go through what God had told me. He told me you know, everybody has their own process. I said no knife.

Cassandra: 25:19

God said okay, no knife means no knife.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 25:22

That means I had to stand to say no, no, I'm right. I'm not going through surgery. I'm not going through none of that, so that was the first time, then 2018, it came back again. Oh my, and I used to have a girlfriend at the time she's gone on to be with the Lord and I would call her and I said girl, let's come back. I need you to go before the Lord. Our running joke was I need you to get in sackcloth and ashes.

Cassandra: 25:48

So yeah, I was serious.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 25:50

Yes, he said OK, I'm going into prayer. She went into prayer. She came back within a couple of days. She said God said the same anointing that healed you the first time is the same anointing that's going to heal you the second time. And I said that's all I need and I was ready to fight. So I geared up, ready to fight again the enemy that was trying to bring it back to this body. When I said no knife, I had to stand my ground, stand my ground. I ended up having the same tech that saw me the first time was the same tech that saw me the second time.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 26:27

That's God. He was strategically positioning me. So even when the surgeon came back, he said Miss Jackson, I can't explain this. He said you know, I don't. He was stumbling for his words. He said do you know what I saw? Yes, god healed me. He said yeah, yeah. I said no, no, he got healed, god healed me. So I had to learn if I'm going to, if I'm going to. Healing looks different to everybody, but I wanted to see the miraculous power of God.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 27:09

That was where I stood my ground, and so it was from there. God would give me a word of knowledge about someone that was having a sickness in their body, and I would pray about it and I would watch God heal them instantly. You know, so he taught me he is a healer.

Cassandra: 27:31

Yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 27:33

And that God's best, that is, that we witness the word. I don't want to just hear the word keep telling who God is, but I'm not. I'm not witnessing it. That's not scripture, that's not the fullness of the word being manifested. Well, if it's not being manifested, where's the hold up?

Cassandra: 27:55

Right, exactly. So, you are living, walking testimony. So what a man thinketh is who he is Right. So we know how powerful that is, oh my God, and when I think about it, when I think about it, it's so good to be amongst individuals that are like-minded and those you have to know. You know, I. I remember when, um, um, the disciples were, uh, was it bothameus? I can't remember letting him down on the roof. He, he needed to be here yes, right, and then?

Cassandra: 28:42

there were other individuals in the room that says, yeah, right, god had to get them out because he didn't want anybody around him or them.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 28:51

That would be the same way with us. Exactly. You've got to know who's around you when you're fighting your biggest battle.

Cassandra: 28:59

Yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 29:00

Yes.

Cassandra: 29:01

Yes, that's so true, my sustaining, sustaining our confession of faith. Listen, um, um I you. Sharing that story reminded me of a friend of mine who was a strong believer as well, and she said I shall not die but live. Okay, she started out with breast cancer and God took her and I was devastated, and I've talked to individuals that get angry because, like you're talking, well, he did it for her, but he didn't do it for me. It's like, okay, I'm seeking him, I'm asking for his anointing, his help to help me start doing what it is that he's called me to do. They're doing it for them, but they didn't do it for me. So then they become discouraged. What would you tell my listeners that have gone through those situations or experienced them?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 30:03

And I, you know I have. I have two. I've lost some very dear friends. One of the things that the Lord told me he said you're in a war and there are casualties of war. There are always casualties of war, and so that stuck with me.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 30:22

I also believe that we don't know why it did not happen. You know, I've had friends that I thought, oh my God, they were strong in God, da, da da. You don't know why. That's where trust comes in. I don't like it, god, but I trust you. It don't feel good to me, but I trust you. You know there are going to be casualties of war and just as they're casualties of war, god's going to make sure that his word is validated. Lost a great mentor and a great friend that way. One of the reasons so she had been a two-time cancer person also, and last time it came back she was ashamed and prideful, didn't want people to know and she kept it, even from me, and the lord told me don't you say a word, because he was trying to let her see pride. When you open break laws, you break the laws of God, but then you expect God will not break the law for anyone.

Cassandra: 31:38

Right no respect of person.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 31:41

Yeah, Two weeks before everything got real bad, I had called her because she had cut off all of our relationship. Yeah, and I called her and I knew it and the Lord said, and pain me, I couldn't say anything because the Lord said, no, don't say anything. And it was probably a week later. She called me. She said I've got cancer. I said I've been knowing that but the Lord wouldn't let me say anything. And the Lord told me he said pride kept her in bondage. She would not ask for help because you wanted her name.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 32:18

Yes, I said make your name of no reputation. It's God's name. You know you've got to be in a place. You don't care what nobody thinks, Right, you don't care what nobody, what they know what they're talking about. You ain't got time for that. That's low level thinking, you know, and so you cannot be concerned. You have, I've made up my mind, God. They didn't survive it, but I'm going to be a witness.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 32:48

You keep saying, okay, you tell God, you pour out your heart, all of those things, and then, once you spit out all of that, then you glorify his name because he's still God, he's still God, he's still in the miraculous business, he still can make a way out of no way. And you have to decide. I'm going, god, use me. Use me to show other people that it is possible. No, it didn't happen. I can't change that but I can tell a different story.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 33:19

Yes, yeah, yeah and so we all have that decision. Tell a different story, because we only have one enemy, that's the devil. God didn't bring that sickness. God didn't, didn't do that. We equate that. God no, no. God said no, no, that was not my doing. I tell people you can't live even unhealthy lives and then all of expect the word to do miraculous things. God gives you wisdom. You break laws. You break laws. There are consequences. You break down the defenses in the body. You know all of us have generational curses of some kind of sickness. You got to draw the line and say not here not here.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 34:07

Not only speaking it, but I'm doing the things that I need to do in the natural. Yeah, so we're ensure that it doesn't come near my dwelling. And so if it means I've got to give up cookies, if it means I've got to exercise and that's what the Lord he said do your part. Yes, that's right, I'll do my part. Faith without works is big. Oh my God.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 34:33

Yeah, you know we want to live as believers. Um, by miracles. Miracles aren't for the believers. God will give us, but they're not a way, a lifestyle for us. They're for the unbeliever. I'm supposed to believe as a believer, yes, yeah, why that's interesting?

Cassandra: 34:50

yeah, because, dr sheila, I was reading my devotions this morning and was talking about adversity. Another way of looking at it is it's a way of lifting you higher to what it is that God would have us to do. And I think about some of my guests who had death in the family moms, you know, unexpected death but out of that they're doing something amazing because of that traumatic, heartbreaking experience. So if you, if you, what do they say? If you faint? Not, that's the thing, right there. I mean because there are struggles in life.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 35:33

He said it was that's life In this world. You're going to have trouble.

Cassandra: 35:37

Yeah, but if you faint not, that's the whole thing, if you faint not, and so with that, um, we talked a bit about so. So people like, okay, so how can I hear from God? How? So how can I hear from God? How, how do I hear? And you talked about reading and studying and praying and how God knows our voice, you know. So tell my listeners again, how can they hear from God? It's not a cookie cutter thing. It will not happen overnight. Now, new babes I remember when I became a new babe in christ, stuff was happening like oh my gosh, god, he saved me from this, he did me this, I got this great, I got this. And then one day he took me off the mill. Yeah, and man, oh man, oh man, oh man. So just share with my listeners. How does someone, how can they hear from?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 36:40

God. I think there are many ways we can hear Personally. You have to develop your own personal relationship with the Lord, and that comes through reading and studying the word and in prayer. There are spiritual principles that strengthen us in our spiritual walk. The Bible says how can they hear without a preacher? I must now put myself in a position as a student, learning, going back to school and allowing the spirit of the Lord to assign me to a teacher, someone that's teaching the gospel. That what I am hearing from someone that has the knowledge and the experience to help me grow because I'm not a teacher this is out of my, this is out of my lane. I can't teach what I don't know.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 37:38

And so I must now humble myself consistently, you know, sit up under who the spirit of the Lord is leading and guiding me, you know, and that means being a part of church. Yes, you can't, you know. Yes, the Internet is wonderful and fine, but you must be around like believers, because they're going to help you grow too.

Cassandra: 38:05

You talk to me, girl. Get off that Internet Right. Be amongst the people. Fellowship, yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 38:12

You know, you give out and you receive. And that's the iron, sharpening iron. So I learn a scripture. Then the teacher, the Holy Spirit, says now I got to see if you know that scripture. So he places us with people. Yes, you know, I tell people. It's like learning your timetables. You don't know two times two is four, consistently, until you put in a position to practice it. You don't know love is until you're put in position to practice it. Yes, patience is until you put in position to practice.

Cassandra: 38:48

Yes.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 38:49

Yes, and so it is those spiritual disciplines reading and studying the word, prayer, meditation, meditation helps us to paint a picture on our heart. And then our confession, making our confession of faith daily. Why? Because I'm painting a new reality. I didn't get where, where I am in negative behavior, negative speech, overnight, so now I've got to be willing to take the time to relearn some things, learn, learn different, learn some new stuff.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 39:31

Exactly, exactly what it is, what does it mean to be a child of God, what it is to be a part of God's kingdom? You know, it's no different than moving from one country to another country. Every country has their own laws. Well, if I'm in the kingdom of God, I've got to know what the laws are in God's kingdom.

Cassandra: 39:51

How do?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 39:51

I rule my life. You know how do I? How do I know if I'm doing the right thing? Cause the world could say black is blue and if I'm not careful I'm so used to going along with the majority I said well, you know it could be, and no one said no, no, black is black.

Cassandra: 40:09

That's right.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 40:10

It's black. So that's the renewing our mind. You know, consecration and um, setting myself apart to learn everything that I need to learn why? Because I want the success life that god says that is to be mine, not just for us, but for our family right.

Cassandra: 40:32

It's like if you don't stand for something, you'll stand for anything.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 40:36

Oh my gosh.

Cassandra: 40:37

Yes, yes, I tell you, Dr Sheila Jackson. What I want to say is thank you for your word, Thank you for the anointing that has come across these airways. And just imagine the other individuals that aren't listening now but will listen on and on as time goes on. And this is what I'll say If you are in a place my audience and my listeners that you, just you know, you know that it is something that you should be doing and you need help doing it. And then, when you get to the point where you're like sick and tired of being where you are, do what Dr Shields talked about today Get to know the Lord, read his word, meditate on it, study it, and don't say you don't have time, because, guess what?

Cassandra: 41:38

God is a redeemer. I know for myself he is a redeemer of time. So I ask you, what do you have to lose? Yeah, Try it. You know what do you have to lose? And that's kind of when I said, that's what I said in my book dear women, have you ever questioned whether there was a God? You may not say it out loud because you don't want people to think that.

Cassandra: 42:06

but I said it out loud, because I questioned, because, as Dr Sheila said, we all go through trials and tribulations and sometimes things will get so tough and so rough. And that's why I said what do you have to lose? Just try him. Dr Sheila, how can my so? Okay, you're a teacher. You travel country to Africa to teach. What is it? What service could my listeners that are interested in you and the things that you stand for, how could they get in touch with you? And when they do, what can they expect?

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 43:03

expect. I am on Facebook under Joshua 2715. That's my Facebook name. My ministry is also under when Spirit Soul. They can contact me on Facebook. I'm on Instagram under Dr Sheila Instagram under Dr Sheila. The email is windspirit soul28 at Yahoo. My niche in the kingdom is to teach spiritual maturity. I teach about the gift of the prophetic, but the bulk of what I teach is how to grow up in God. How to grow up in God. Grow up in God, yes.

Cassandra: 43:45

Beautiful.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 43:46

Yes, Beautiful, I love it. One of the things let me share, Cassandra, that the Lord told me and he's been reiterating it for the last three years that if you want something you never had, you've got to be willing to do what you have yet to do. And so, for the listening audience, when you really want something you've never had, you're willing to go the extra, the extra you know to get it. You know we all can have an excuse. Don't listen to that report. We already listened to our own soul. We've already listened to the enemy. Believe me, I told the lord lord you know how old I am. He said I don't need you to tell me how old. You are Right, Because I know, I know that's right.

Cassandra: 44:35

I can restore you.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 44:37

I'm the keeper of you. Do your part and I will ensure that you live out what I've called you to do in the earth. And I continue to be amazed. And you know, let God take a risk that cannot fail on God. Take a risk. He will never fail you. He will never fail you. You keep saying that to yourself. God, she said you won't fail me. Yeah, right, and watch God, watch God.

Cassandra: 45:14

Yes, wow, wow, wow. This was very encouraging and, like I said, anointed, and I am so grateful for your presence. You're speaking into the airways to my listeners and I know, I know it's something you've said that has resonated with somebody, some bodies that are listening, and for my audience, I got always say you know how to get in touch with Dr Sheila and I always pray that you will get something from this podcast and I ask you if in fact, you've enjoyed it and you want more of it, click I like it and click subscribe and share it with your friends and, like I always, say bye for now and God bless you all and Dr Sheila. Thank you so much.

Dr. Sheila Jackson: 46:12

Thank you, cassandra, thank you so much. I've truly enjoyed it, truly enjoyed it.